Why began Civil War ??? / Почему началась гражданская война ???

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#1by Cao Cao » 23.09.2013, 10:37

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its just make nerv cause dont know when , why , will happend civil war . Encyclopidia saying what civil war begining if one of family ( my or AI ) gets too much or too less influence like places in goverment . But was 49 % against 51 % , so nobody was too angry to make rebel .so why its happend ?

Отношени между семьями 51 против 49 в процентах . в то время как энциклопедия говорит что гражданская война начнется только при высоком или низком влиянии семьи в гос-ве .Тогда какого Ф-га она началась ?



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$$$$$$_____$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___
__$$$$$$____$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___ 故上兵伐謀,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。攻城之法為不得已。
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_______$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$__$___ 故知勝有五:知可以戰與不可以戰者勝。
_$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$______
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$$_____ 凡治眾如治寡,分數是也。
_$$$$______$$$$$$$$$$______$_____
____________$$$$$$$$$$____$$_____ 是故始如處女,敵人開戶,後如脫兔,敵不及拒。
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__________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_________ 不可勝在己,可勝在敵。
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________$$$$$$$___$$$$$$$$$______ 兵士甚陷則不懼,無所往則固,深入則拘,不得已則鬥。
________$$$$$$_______$$$$$$$_____ ___$$$_$$$$$____________$$$$_____ 必索敵人之間來間我者,因而利之,導而舍之,故反間可得而用也。 __$$$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$_____QQ : 2257417221 , QQ Art of War 孙子兵法 group 193674387 ___$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$$_____ Napoleon's Accout : http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cao777
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#2by Drend » 23.09.2013, 13:06

Есть мысль, что у одного из полководцев были слишком высокие параметры *притязание* и *харизма* . Поясню первый параметр отвечает за шанс изменения баланса сил этим персонажем, второй отвечает за степень этих изменений.
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#3by Cao Cao » 23.09.2013, 13:45

возможно так и было , но также было бы не плохо написать об этом в энциклопедии а то вся иформация о гражданской войне сводится к политичекому влиянию , это объяснения которые есть на данный момент в ней пара коротких видио роликов

Почитав мнение многих играков делаем вывод : гражданска война рандомна и обяательно случится 1 раз за кампанию и всегда будит множество полных армий и флотов противника независимо от сложности кампании

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/96701-W ... -Civil-War?p=810758#post810758
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_______________$$$$$$____________孫子曰:兵者,國之大事,死生之地,存亡之道,不可不察也。
__________$$$$$_$$$$$$____$______
$$$$__________$$$$$$$$$_$$$$$____ 是故百戰百勝,非善之善也﹔不戰而屈人之兵,善之善者也。
$$$$$$_____$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___
__$$$$$$____$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___ 故上兵伐謀,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。攻城之法為不得已。
_____$$$$$__$$$$$$$$$$$_$$__$$___
_______$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$__$___ 故知勝有五:知可以戰與不可以戰者勝。
_$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$______
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$$_____ 凡治眾如治寡,分數是也。
_$$$$______$$$$$$$$$$______$_____
____________$$$$$$$$$$____$$_____ 是故始如處女,敵人開戶,後如脫兔,敵不及拒。
___________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$______
__________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_________ 不可勝在己,可勝在敵。
_________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$________
________$$$$$$$___$$$$$$$$$______ 兵士甚陷則不懼,無所往則固,深入則拘,不得已則鬥。
________$$$$$$_______$$$$$$$_____ ___$$$_$$$$$____________$$$$_____ 必索敵人之間來間我者,因而利之,導而舍之,故反間可得而用也。 __$$$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$_____QQ : 2257417221 , QQ Art of War 孙子兵法 group 193674387 ___$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$$_____ Napoleon's Accout : http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cao777
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#4by oOIYvYIOo » 07.10.2013, 11:56

Civil war has 2 ways of happening ,im not 100% sure but i think its like this , 1 will happen when you reach Imperium level with your people and the other one is due several factors .
Such as having to much or to few control on your council,senate,etc of your faction ,try to have always around 40% to 60% , try to not expand to fast without the happiness of your new conquests is under control , lack of food,unhappiness in general and that's it .
As always on TW you have to balance your game in military and civilian aspect,but, on Rome II ,in my opinion, you have to be more concentrated and more perfect .Its not only rush rush rush as it was till today on previous TW games.
And i too think Rome II was made in a way for the player to play till the end ,there is some type of phases during the campaign some more easy other more hard .
I still don't know if civil wars are activated on a certain date ignoring all the factors mentioned above.
But we all know that the AI ,on campaign must be more aggressive and on the battlefield return to the AI we had on Shogun II ,a example is when the AI is attacking cities , he should be able to deploy on the start on several places of the map as it was with Shogun II . Making the AI more versatile and dynamic on siege battles .
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#5by Cao Cao » 07.10.2013, 12:45

its was medium Imperium level , and 51 /49 % senat , what was strange . and we know what cw must be 1 time for campaign , so i think no sense lost money to bribe generals or kill them , what do you think ?
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_______________$$$$$$____________孫子曰:兵者,國之大事,死生之地,存亡之道,不可不察也。
__________$$$$$_$$$$$$____$______
$$$$__________$$$$$$$$$_$$$$$____ 是故百戰百勝,非善之善也﹔不戰而屈人之兵,善之善者也。
$$$$$$_____$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___
__$$$$$$____$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___ 故上兵伐謀,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。攻城之法為不得已。
_____$$$$$__$$$$$$$$$$$_$$__$$___
_______$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$__$___ 故知勝有五:知可以戰與不可以戰者勝。
_$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$______
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$$_____ 凡治眾如治寡,分數是也。
_$$$$______$$$$$$$$$$______$_____
____________$$$$$$$$$$____$$_____ 是故始如處女,敵人開戶,後如脫兔,敵不及拒。
___________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$______
__________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_________ 不可勝在己,可勝在敵。
_________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$________
________$$$$$$$___$$$$$$$$$______ 兵士甚陷則不懼,無所往則固,深入則拘,不得已則鬥。
________$$$$$$_______$$$$$$$_____ ___$$$_$$$$$____________$$$$_____ 必索敵人之間來間我者,因而利之,導而舍之,故反間可得而用也。 __$$$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$_____QQ : 2257417221 , QQ Art of War 孙子兵法 group 193674387 ___$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$$_____ Napoleon's Accout : http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cao777
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#6by oOIYvYIOo » 12.11.2013, 19:31

Cao Cao wrote:its was medium Imperium level , and 51 /49 % senat , what was strange . and we know what cw must be 1 time for campaign , so i think no sense lost money to bribe generals or kill them , what do you think ?

It seems more and more for me that this is not a event that can be provoked .
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