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#141by Surprise » 12.05.2014, 19:43

Я не понимаю чего все так боятся ИИ на 1 сложности? С модом или без мода он импотент.
I don't understand why everyone is so afraid of AI at the first level of complexity? With the mod or without mod it impotent.
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#142by Cao Cao » 12.05.2014, 20:50

Скорее не боятся играть против ИИ а того что не могут использовать огромные армии ИИ которые появляются при добавлении сложности . Играть своими армиями гораздо сложнее , чем тупо склонять ИИ на свою сторону и играть его читерными войсками .

Nobody be scared by AI , probablemente here is another one kind like players can not use huge AI army to get victory , which AI gets like advantage with hard and highter difficult . Control own army and get victory by use it , is much more harder than control huge AI cheater armies .
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________$$$$$$_______$$$$$$$_____ ___$$$_$$$$$____________$$$$_____ 必索敵人之間來間我者,因而利之,導而舍之,故反間可得而用也。 __$$$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$_____QQ : 2257417221 , QQ Art of War 孙子兵法 group 193674387 ___$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$$_____ Napoleon's Accout : http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cao777
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#143by Attila » 12.05.2014, 20:56

Слово "боятся " звучит наверно сильно. А вот когда тебя атакуют фракций 5 ИИшных с разных сторон и у каждой по 2-3 армии плюс противник притаранит пару своих ну и конечно агентура их подключится и все это одновременно -а твоих ресурсов хватает только на пару средненьких по мощи армий я погляжу как ты запоешь))) А так в целом ничего страшного)
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#144by Cao Cao » 12.05.2014, 21:14

To Attila , let make translation of your post to eng and dont forget it doing in future pls .
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兵者,詭道也。故能而示之不能,用而示之不用,近而示之遠,遠而示之近。

_______________$$$$$$____________孫子曰:兵者,國之大事,死生之地,存亡之道,不可不察也。
__________$$$$$_$$$$$$____$______
$$$$__________$$$$$$$$$_$$$$$____ 是故百戰百勝,非善之善也﹔不戰而屈人之兵,善之善者也。
$$$$$$_____$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___
__$$$$$$____$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$$___ 故上兵伐謀,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城。攻城之法為不得已。
_____$$$$$__$$$$$$$$$$$_$$__$$___
_______$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$__$$__$___ 故知勝有五:知可以戰與不可以戰者勝。
_$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$______
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_____$$_____ 凡治眾如治寡,分數是也。
_$$$$______$$$$$$$$$$______$_____
____________$$$$$$$$$$____$$_____ 是故始如處女,敵人開戶,後如脫兔,敵不及拒。
___________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$______
__________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$_________ 不可勝在己,可勝在敵。
_________$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$________
________$$$$$$$___$$$$$$$$$______ 兵士甚陷則不懼,無所往則固,深入則拘,不得已則鬥。
________$$$$$$_______$$$$$$$_____ ___$$$_$$$$$____________$$$$_____ 必索敵人之間來間我者,因而利之,導而舍之,故反間可得而用也。 __$$$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$_____QQ : 2257417221 , QQ Art of War 孙子兵法 group 193674387 ___$$$$$$$_________$$$$$$$$$_____ Napoleon's Accout : http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cao777
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1st Kremlin Tourney
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Golden Dragon of Japan
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receives the one who attains the most points for all competition of one tournament
Cao Cao - 12 victories
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#145by Attila » 12.05.2014, 21:21

The word "fear" sounds highly likely. But when you attack IIshnyh 5 fractions from different sides and each 2-3 plus the enemy army pritaranil couple and of course their agents and connect them all at once, and your resources only enough for a couple of mediocre power by armies as I can see you zapoesh))) And in general nothing wrong)
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#146by Attila » 12.05.2014, 21:25

Просто играя с дипломатией зачастую склоняешь фракции стратегически опасно расположенные для тебя и противника на свою сторону и подключаешь к войне просто потому чтобы этого не сделал противник). Это как с агентами. Если не ограничить количество то в итоге можно иметь армии переманенных агентов
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#147by Attila » 12.05.2014, 21:25

Just playing with diplomacy often leaning faction located strategically dangerous for you and the enemy on its side and is connected to the war simply because it did not do to the enemy). It's like with the agents. If you do not limit the number that can eventually have the army peremanennyh agents
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#148by Attila » 12.05.2014, 21:28

Играли щас на легком уровне первый тур-и вобщем то малые фракции с 1 городом по 2 армии выдавали со своего единственного малого города.
Played right now on easy first round and vobschem small fraction of 1 city 2 army issued from his single small town.
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#149by Attila » 12.05.2014, 21:35

Я, например раньше, пока не вышел один из многочисленных патчей сделавший дипломатию баблокомерческой, часто играл арвернами против рима-и всегда побеждал, частенько без единого патрона, одной дипломатией.
I, for example before, until he reached one of the many patches are bablokomercheskoy diplomacy, often played Arverne against Rome and always won, often without a single cartridge, one diplomacy.
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#150by Attila » 12.05.2014, 21:39

В целом, проблема не стоит с модом или без играть, проблема в другом, уже говорилось про штрафы и бонусы в дипломатии у разных фракций, и если игроки готовы проигрывать и терять очки из за этого то пожалуйста-дипломатическое неравновесие еще более усилит неравновесность фракций.
In general, the problem is not worth the mod or not to play, the problem lies elsewhere, mentioned about the penalties and bonuses in diplomacy among different factions, and if players are willing to lose and lose points because of this please and diplomatic imbalance will further strengthen the nonequilibrium fractions.
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